"Alfalfa" (alfalfa-romeo)
04/21/2016 at 00:59 • Filed to: None
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"Alfalfa" (alfalfa-romeo)
04/21/2016 at 00:59 • Filed to: None | 1
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I think my brother-in-law is about to become an obnoxious ricer. I’m trying to teach him the true ways of racecar, but I don’t think he’s listening.
Also, is cute that he thinks he’ll be a able to stick to this budget.
Nauraushaun
> Alfalfa
04/21/2016 at 01:04 |
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What if I told you
Racecar and ricer
Are synonyms
Seriously more often than not “because racecar” is used as justification for removing the back seats from your Civic or some other dumb
upgrade
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Flavien Vidal
> Alfalfa
04/21/2016 at 01:06 |
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So sorry for your loss. When will you put him to sleep?
6Cylinder
> Alfalfa
04/21/2016 at 01:07 |
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420 slam it m9
Sovereign, Purveyor of Coupes
> Alfalfa
04/21/2016 at 01:12 |
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I say mind your own business, until he asks you for an opinion on something. Then be brutally and unapologetically honest. Works for me most of the time.
415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°)
> Alfalfa
04/21/2016 at 01:24 |
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Vicious Civic bro, slam that shit! VTECs gunna kick in yo!
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Alfalfa
> Nauraushaun
04/21/2016 at 01:49 |
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I see what you mean, but I feel like there is still a difference between a stripped car used for auto-x and a typical slammed fartcan civic.
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Nauraushaun
> Alfalfa
04/21/2016 at 01:57 |
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I agree there definitely is. But “racecar” gets so much abuse. I think it’s more common for real race cars to be referred to as track cars, thankfully.
DutchieDC2R
> Alfalfa
04/21/2016 at 02:17 |
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an H23A in a civic is not that much of a bad idea. The slamming part I’m not a fan of, but all the other things, I really like. Maybe you could explain to him that it would be a better/smarter idea to put some proper suspension parts on it instead of stancing it, with the kind of power he intends to make.
Also, his estimates for the prices aren’t that far off. In Europe anyways, he would spend a lot less for a swap like that.
Serious question tho, what made you put the plaque ‘ricer’ on him from this story? Apart from the stance thing, his ideas dont seem ricey at all. I see no talk about fartcans, huge wings, bodykits etc etc. Plus, the stance thing, I mean, I hate it, but its a culture though. I see it in the same way as Bosuzoku in Japan for example. Im not a fan, but its not your typical ricey behaviour/mods....
Tapas
> Nauraushaun
04/21/2016 at 02:17 |
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In his case, it would be “because, ricecar”...
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Nauraushaun
> Tapas
04/21/2016 at 02:30 |
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This needs to be a thing. For shitty ricecar mods that are justified as “racecar” mods.
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Tapas
> Nauraushaun
04/21/2016 at 02:35 |
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I’m down for that.
Because, ricecar... TM, R, Trademark: Tapas
*prints merchendise*
TheOnelectronic
> Alfalfa
04/21/2016 at 02:40 |
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I don’t know, he’s found a cheap car that he’s planning on doing an engine swap and turbo upgrade on? Sounds like a fun project to me.
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Alfalfa
> DutchieDC2R
04/21/2016 at 02:47 |
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It is mostly a good idea, which is a key reason as to why I want to steer him more towards race car. I actually did recommend a proper suspension setup, and nothing else.
As far as cost, there’s just other things that he probably hasn’t thought of yet (suspension being one of them).
Rice has many definitions, I suppose. But he’s kind of a sheep, and if he slams his car he’ll likely start hanging with the slammed crowd. It could really go either way.
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Alfalfa
> TheOnelectronic
04/21/2016 at 02:50 |
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The engine swap and turbo I’m down with, but the slamming, combined with no expressed desire to modify handling and stopping power, and the fact that he can be kind of a douche, Make me think that this will not go in what I consider an ideal direction.
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Nauraushaun
> Tapas
04/21/2016 at 03:01 |
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You’re going to be rich in internet kudos
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Tapas
> Nauraushaun
04/21/2016 at 03:50 |
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I can’t wait!
I’ve already put some karma down for my internet Jaugar F-Type Project 7.
Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell.
> Alfalfa
04/21/2016 at 04:26 |
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Going to be interesting to see how a cheaply slammed car handles an engine upgrade with a turbo. Id imagine poorly...
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Alfalfa
> Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell.
04/21/2016 at 04:37 |
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Right? I’m trying to talk him into getting some proper suspension. The lower end turbo kits I’m looking at for the h23 claim to make over 300 whp.
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Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell.
> Alfalfa
04/21/2016 at 04:49 |
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Yeah he needs to spend if he wants a low car that actually works. It is possible to make a lowered car handle but it sure as hell ain’t cheap...
jordang1028
> Alfalfa
04/21/2016 at 05:48 |
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Does he have the mechanical ability to swap an H series motor into a Civic? If he doesn’t you won’t need to worry about his lack of brakes and proper suspension.
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jordang1028
> Alfalfa
04/21/2016 at 05:54 |
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http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/550408…
Or buy this and put the other $2+k into suspension.
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Alfalfa
> jordang1028
04/21/2016 at 06:15 |
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I don’t think so. I’m guessing he has a shop and/or friend helping, because he sure doesn’t have room to do this project in his Marine barracks...
Stapleface
> 415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°)
04/21/2016 at 06:45 |
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The body cancer is a nice touch.
Illegitimus Prime
> Alfalfa
04/21/2016 at 06:57 |
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Not sure how it is with Marine bases, but I used the auto shop at Ft Riley all the time while I was stationed there. There usually will be a shop on Army posts that’s really cheap to use, lifts and all.
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Alfalfa
> Illegitimus Prime
04/21/2016 at 07:12 |
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That’s a possibility. We’ll see if he even forks out the money for the cat and engine, though.
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Illegitimus Prime
> Alfalfa
04/21/2016 at 07:32 |
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XKCD plugin?
JGrabowMSt
> Alfalfa
04/21/2016 at 07:58 |
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Just get yourself a sweet sounding HEMI and you’ll enjoy whipping him on a regular basis. I sure enjoy mashing the go pedal to put fart cannons in their place.
Alternatively, you could be the cool BIL and try helping him with it, and build it as an autocross toy, and try to keep him in line about driving it responsily.
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Alfalfa
> JGrabowMSt
04/21/2016 at 08:09 |
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I’d like to do the latter, especially since I seem to be the only responsible adult in his life who hasn’t given up on fun, but he’s not exactly in close proximity.
TheJWT
> Alfalfa
04/21/2016 at 08:49 |
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Wow, I don’t think anyone has ever modified a civic before.
interstate366, now In The Industry
> Alfalfa
04/21/2016 at 09:24 |
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As a guy who has an H23A (in a 5th gen Prelude), just getting the thing to work in a USDM car is a chore in itself. You need a donor H22 to take the sensors and things off. The engine itself only cost me about $700, but getting it going in the car ended up being about $3000 after everything. New seals, belts, hoses, mounts, etc. And that’s going into a car that originally housed an H, doing the work myself (along with my dad and a couple friends) and not even taking cost of tools into consideration. Costs even more to put it into a Civic. But, uh, you don’t have to tell him any of this. ;)
Urambo Tauro
> Nauraushaun
04/21/2016 at 10:34 |
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What if I told you
Racecar and ricer
Are synonyms
Seriously more often than not “because racecar” is used as justification for removing the back seats from your Civic or some other dumb upgrade .
I don’t want to support that notion, but I’m going to anyway, because you’re right.
It is worth mentioning, though, that a racecar sacrifices practicality and comfort for speed/performance. A stereotypical ricer sacrifices practicality and comfort for looks/entertainment/the lulz. Because of this, I’m much more forgiving toward the racecar.
MonkeePuzzle
> jordang1028
04/21/2016 at 10:51 |
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does he have access to youtube? then he can muddle through, I did :)
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MonkeePuzzle
> Alfalfa
04/21/2016 at 10:57 |
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well, its not a terrible plan, and worst case he’s out $4k on a project and learns at least $4k worth of knowledge.
I’d ditch the turbo idea, an H series in a Civic should already be enough to get him in trouble. Plus a turbo would need all its accompanying things to get it working well, bigger injectors, fuel pump often, tuning or new ECU etc.
also, a slammed civic with an H series engine usually have oil pan clearance problems because they tend to sit lower than the D and B series engines.
Honestly I’d be fluctuating between deflating his plans and helping him achieve something good with some minor tweaks, or option B which is following his progress and shaking your head at each bad mistake he makes.
either way, good luck! keep us updated, or better yet, direct him to oppo so we can follow along as he learns :D
Junkrat aka Rick Sanchez: Fury Road Edition
> Alfalfa
04/21/2016 at 15:06 |
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We were all there at one point. We all learned from those mistakes. We sure as hell didn’t listen to what other people wanted us to do to our car. I was greatly influenced by the cars I saw up close and personal. He needs to find someone with a properly setup civic and go for a ride. Then once he is finished slamming his he will realize the difference. I’ve driven a 95 civic hatch with a stock k24 and that thing was a beast for a street car.
Maybe get him a set of used coilovers for his birthday or something.
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Nauraushaun
> Urambo Tauro
04/21/2016 at 18:26 |
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I’m with you 100%